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and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture in february this year as you can governor rick snyder testified on capitol hill saying that right to work for less laws were not right for michigan so what's changed over the last ten months and how badly will the right to work for less law urge the michigan economy also as tuitions rates of colleges and universities across the country continue to skyrocket tuition free universities are becoming relics of another age our students at one of the stations last to asian for universities fighting back against a first ever plan to charge tuition and last month washington state and colorado became the first two states in america to legalize the recreational use of marijuana now comes the hard part of the states regulate the sale and use of the drug and will the federal government let them. you need to know this earlier this year michigan's republican governor rick snyder attended a hearing on capitol hill to talk about state economies and job creation he was asked about controversial right to work for less laws that starve unions of critical fu
and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture in february this year as you can governor rick snyder testified on capitol hill saying that right to work for less laws were not right for michigan so what's changed over the last ten months and how badly will the right to work for less law urge the michigan economy also as tuitions rates of colleges and universities across the country continue to skyrocket tuition free universities are becoming relics of another age our students at one of...
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for two years we trusts snyder's agreement. with conviction that they war electing someone more independent and more visionary than partisan apparatchiks like wisconsin's scott walker and florida's rick scott. the real motive of michigan's right-to-work champions is pure greed, the determination to emasculate once and all the democratic party's most reliable organizational support. snyder's right-to-work legalization is an attempt to institutionalize republicans' current political advantage. everything else is window dressing. michigan's governor has abdicated his leadership responsibilities to republican legislators bent on vengeance. and that comes from a paper that endorsed rick snyder. they are supposed to be on his side. not on this. also, a modern republican governor of michigan watching the fights over stripping union rights in neighbors ohio and wisconsin inside out these past ol' years. one republican michigan governor of late said just this year that michigan would never make that mistake. he told a u.s. house committ
for two years we trusts snyder's agreement. with conviction that they war electing someone more independent and more visionary than partisan apparatchiks like wisconsin's scott walker and florida's rick scott. the real motive of michigan's right-to-work champions is pure greed, the determination to emasculate once and all the democratic party's most reliable organizational support. snyder's right-to-work legalization is an attempt to institutionalize republicans' current political advantage....
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that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy. michigan governor rick snyder went before congress ten months ago to say he was not particularly interested at this time in making the bedrock union state of michigan a right to work state. >> right to work is an issue that is a very divisive issue. people feel very strongly about it. we have many problems in michigan that are much more pressing that i want to find common ground issues we can work together on before we get into divisive issues. >> jon: (whispering) going to bring people together. (laughter) he was going to focus on common ground things people from michigan want and need. more robocoppers on the streets of new detroit. (laughter) getting the tourism board to work a little harder on its new slogan. (laughter) and finally -- (applause). finally michigan was going to fin their statue i have been petitioning for online. (laughter) they've got
that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy. michigan governor rick snyder went before congress ten months ago to say he was not particularly interested at this time in making the bedrock union state of michigan a right to work state. >> right to work is an issue that is a very divisive issue. people feel very strongly about it. we have...
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governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick snyder says, by the way, it's not fair to call these people freeloaders. >> i think it's absolutely inappropriate to say someone is a freeloader. michigan people are hard-working people trying to make a living. if the union is offering them a value proposition, i don't see a michiganer hesitating to pay those dollars >> bill: i came close to calling that what it is. total b.s of course they are freeloaders. i have all of these people around me. they are paying their dues so we can get representation in the state legislature in the congress so we can work and get better re
governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick...
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they asked with governor snyder and asked him to find a middle path. cider told them he would seriously consider their concerns. i'm joined my mary kay henry, welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you. glad to be here. >> i'm sure you were totally tuned into what the president was saying today, was just having him mention it enough? >> it was great. it was wonderful that he talked about collective bargaining rights and how important it is for workers to be able to lift wages. >> is this payback? i mean -- the unions came out really, you know, in big somebodies for him. there was vocal support, there were president rallies. is this a little bit of pay back for the president comes to michigan now? it was clear he went to detroit diesel. he talked to these union workers and said i have got your back. is this a different president than we have been used to seeing? >> we heard the president crystal clear thursday following the election about how important he thought it was for everybody to pay their fair share so we can get this country back to work and g
they asked with governor snyder and asked him to find a middle path. cider told them he would seriously consider their concerns. i'm joined my mary kay henry, welcome inside "the war room." >> thank you. glad to be here. >> i'm sure you were totally tuned into what the president was saying today, was just having him mention it enough? >> it was great. it was wonderful that he talked about collective bargaining rights and how important it is for workers to be able to...
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on tuesday, all of a sudden governor snyder said right to work was on his agenda. how come? quoting "the detroit free press," "there is a view unions must put something on the table if right to work is not to proceed after having gone ahead with a collective bargaining ballot proposal against his urging in last month's election." so this is payback? bargaining? this morning governor snyder held a press conference with republican lawmakers to announce new right to work legislation for the current lame duck session. the governor said he was doing it for the good of michigan's workers. and then the lawmakers explained that they had crafted the bill in such a way that michigan voters could not put it up for appeal by referendum the way they appealed governor snyder's emergency manager law last month. so good, you can't actually get rid of it even if you want to, voters. republicans then rushed the new language into a vote at the statehouse where it passed by a largely partyline vote of 58-52. just before 5:00 p.m. local time. so depending on how you look at it, the entire legisl
on tuesday, all of a sudden governor snyder said right to work was on his agenda. how come? quoting "the detroit free press," "there is a view unions must put something on the table if right to work is not to proceed after having gone ahead with a collective bargaining ballot proposal against his urging in last month's election." so this is payback? bargaining? this morning governor snyder held a press conference with republican lawmakers to announce new right to work...
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governor snyder, just say no! >> thanks for staying with "the ed show" tonight. a state known for its unions is in serious jeopardy tonight. republicans are about to really stick to it organized labor in the state of michigan. lame duck republicans want to turn michigan into a right-to-work state. it would mean workers could get all of the benefits of the unions without paying dues. they want to just rip apart democratic infrastructure. that's all they want to do. today democrats called a special meeting with the governor to stop the bill. >> this is a very, very serious matter we have seen in labor management relations in this state i believe in our lifetimes. >> tonight workers are planning to stage massive rallies at the state house tomorrow. security is tight. the governor could sign the bill within the next 24 hours. let's turn to congressman gary peters of michigan, and also cindy estrada, vice president of the united auto workers. great to have both of you with us. first of all you, congressman. you were in that meeting today. how determined do you think g
governor snyder, just say no! >> thanks for staying with "the ed show" tonight. a state known for its unions is in serious jeopardy tonight. republicans are about to really stick to it organized labor in the state of michigan. lame duck republicans want to turn michigan into a right-to-work state. it would mean workers could get all of the benefits of the unions without paying dues. they want to just rip apart democratic infrastructure. that's all they want to do. today...
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who got snyder elected? who were the donors? look at that, david koch, paul singer a huge hedge fund manager, bought up a parts company and held the governor hostage so we can rescue g.m. and ford. the devos family, the amway guys who screw over their employees on a regular basis they don't give them pensions, health care or anything. of course, the michigan chamber of commerce which makes screwing over workers a professional living. that's what they do for a living. these are the guys that back -- do you think snyder had a change of heart? no this was the plan all along and we've got it on tape. now, let me tell you more. talk to americans for prosperity and you go and ask them hey did you guys back this? it was your tent, your money that got poured in. i love this answer. >> oh, please! cookies and coffee. if you mean millions upon millions of dollars that's exactly what you did. they couldn't help bragging. americans for prosperity put out this statement: >> in other words, of course we want to do it in the heart of michigan
who got snyder elected? who were the donors? look at that, david koch, paul singer a huge hedge fund manager, bought up a parts company and held the governor hostage so we can rescue g.m. and ford. the devos family, the amway guys who screw over their employees on a regular basis they don't give them pensions, health care or anything. of course, the michigan chamber of commerce which makes screwing over workers a professional living. that's what they do for a living. these are the guys that...
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state capitol tens of michigan republican state legislators today asked the republican governor rick snyder signed into law a highly controversial right to work for less bill and more and more states has the right to work for less laws what's the future of labor and in america and are we witnessing it's slow death also millions of senior citizen of the u.s. rely on medicare for life saving health care but republicans in congress don't seem to care are they launching an all out assault on medicare what's the real story behind that and republicans are just trying to destroy medicare they're trying to get rid of social security to the republicans only attacking social security because they're afraid to admit that it proves government can work. you need to know this michigan is now a right to work for a lot of state republicans rammed through the law this afternoon and it was promptly signed behind closed doors by republican governor rick snyder in response as many as fifty thousand workers converged on the michigan state capital today for the latest labor battle in what's been a three decades
state capitol tens of michigan republican state legislators today asked the republican governor rick snyder signed into law a highly controversial right to work for less bill and more and more states has the right to work for less laws what's the future of labor and in america and are we witnessing it's slow death also millions of senior citizen of the u.s. rely on medicare for life saving health care but republicans in congress don't seem to care are they launching an all out assault on...
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governor snyder saying indiana is a right to work state. is it a new day that your party will have to awaken to or another fight to be had here? >> i don't think it's a new day that we have to awaken to. the logic of the argument that somehow unions are responsible for the economic woes of the middle class or economy at large is illogical. it is not true. so i mean, this is clearly -- governor snyder may not say it's political but it's clearly political. he is trying to appease his base. i would say are they listening to the american people? are they watching what happened in the next election? because governor snyder, governor kasich up for re-election relatively soon and face a more united democratic party. >> that was the threat to scott walker. that was the very threat that he faced -- >> correct. >> this monster or wave of force. >> but i would say the difference there was in a referend referendum, talking about a smaller group of people to vote. this one because it seems so unnecessary, it wasn't something by the way that governor sny
governor snyder saying indiana is a right to work state. is it a new day that your party will have to awaken to or another fight to be had here? >> i don't think it's a new day that we have to awaken to. the logic of the argument that somehow unions are responsible for the economic woes of the middle class or economy at large is illogical. it is not true. so i mean, this is clearly -- governor snyder may not say it's political but it's clearly political. he is trying to appease his base....
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let's get this behind us. >> bill: that's what snyder said. >> that's what snyder said. now, it is smack in front of michigan. you know, talk to any ceo of the big three ask them about labor management relations the sad part of this is when you don't give workers a voice it creates dissension within. there's no voice to talk to management. and progressive managers like the big three, they say look we, in the last 10, 15 years have developed a really strong, positive relationship between labor and management. just walk into any plant. like the daimlerchrysler -- it is not chrysler anymore. it is a daimler plant. just walk in and talk to the management. in fact, i did talk to management. i talked to labor representatives and they talk how they worked together, these last years. he's decided to do is -- the governor, is the opposite. i talked to someone who's a union rep and he goes down to north carolina where there's a plant there, a daimler plant doing the same work. and it is a right-to-work state. >> bill: mmm. >> so they have a t-shirt there and it says "i ride, you p
let's get this behind us. >> bill: that's what snyder said. >> that's what snyder said. now, it is smack in front of michigan. you know, talk to any ceo of the big three ask them about labor management relations the sad part of this is when you don't give workers a voice it creates dissension within. there's no voice to talk to management. and progressive managers like the big three, they say look we, in the last 10, 15 years have developed a really strong, positive relationship...
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governor snyder is hard at work on that now. while he is at it, the jobs, jobs, jobs governor is also poised to sign a law that would ban any insurance policy in michigan from covering abortion. no insurance coverage for abortion unless you would die without getting that abortion. that is the only exception. so if you are raped, if you are raped by your father or your uncle, if you're the victim of incest, tough luck. you can hold a bake sale or something. governor rick snyder is poised to ban your insurance from covering that cost. jobs, jobs, jobs. and also because obviously it was the message of the last election, michigan republicans are now moving a bill in the legislature to ban sharia law in the state because, well, obviously president obama is a secret muslim, or so says the bill's republican author in michigan. all of this stuff is being passed and signed or debated in michigan this week, after state republicans there passed their monumental legislation stripping union rights in the state. with no warning and no debate
governor snyder is hard at work on that now. while he is at it, the jobs, jobs, jobs governor is also poised to sign a law that would ban any insurance policy in michigan from covering abortion. no insurance coverage for abortion unless you would die without getting that abortion. that is the only exception. so if you are raped, if you are raped by your father or your uncle, if you're the victim of incest, tough luck. you can hold a bake sale or something. governor rick snyder is poised to ban...
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governor snyder, thank you very much for joining us. tell me why now and why this issue, why take this on? this is not what you campaigned on. >> no. i appreciate that, andrea. it really goes back to last summertime. the labor movement, labor leaders were pushing forward something called proposal 2. they were doing signatures to put on it the ballot, which would have been a massive overreach into michigan's constitution regarding collective bargaining. i believe in collective bargaining, but this was way over the top, and i asked him not to go forward, and the reasons i said is you are going to start a very divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first, but it also will get into right to work. it will create a big stir about right to work in addition to collective bargaining. the voters spoke in november and dramatically voted down proposal two, but then this right to work discussion just continued to escalate and was becoming very divisive. the way i viewed it, it's on the table. it's a hot issue. let's show some leadership
governor snyder, thank you very much for joining us. tell me why now and why this issue, why take this on? this is not what you campaigned on. >> no. i appreciate that, andrea. it really goes back to last summertime. the labor movement, labor leaders were pushing forward something called proposal 2. they were doing signatures to put on it the ballot, which would have been a massive overreach into michigan's constitution regarding collective bargaining. i believe in collective bargaining,...
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governor snyder today said this. let me let you listen to this and respond. >> i ask them not to go forward. the reason i said is you're going to start a divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first. then this right to work discussion continued to escalate and was becoming divisive. i viewed it as on the table. it's a hot issue. let's show some leadership. i stepped up to say when i review it, i think it's a good thing. >> now, senator, the governor is saying here because there's a referendum on the ballot, that he told them not to do it. it's almost like he's blaming labor for what they did in a lame duck session with no hearings? >> exactly. give me a break. this governor just last week when he announced this about face said that this was good public policy. now he's admitting that this is about political retribution. this is anti-worker, anti-family, anti-woman. and they're doing it in the most anti-american way. it is absolutely repulsive this governor is such a coward he had to announce it from behi
governor snyder today said this. let me let you listen to this and respond. >> i ask them not to go forward. the reason i said is you're going to start a divisive discussion regarding collective bargaining first. then this right to work discussion continued to escalate and was becoming divisive. i viewed it as on the table. it's a hot issue. let's show some leadership. i stepped up to say when i review it, i think it's a good thing. >> now, senator, the governor is saying here...
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governor snyder didn't lie all of the time. here's something he did get accurate. >> only about 17.5% of our workers in this state belong to a union. most people do not. so it wasn't a relevant issue for most michiganders. >> so he was accurate about that because snyder admits only 17% of workers belong to a union in the state of michigan yet he expects us to believe that a right-to-work law will spur economic development? it defies common sense. i'm not done with this story. more coming up. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay right with us. >> i never said unions are bad for business, and i don't believe this is actually anti-union. if you look at it, i believe this is pro worker. >> the people of michigan are fighting back against rick snyder's assault on workers. tonight, michigan's own michael moore is here to unveil his plan to undo the republicans' sneak attack. >>> last night's concert was a smashing success. but it's not nearly enough. i'll tell you how house republicans are obstruc
governor snyder didn't lie all of the time. here's something he did get accurate. >> only about 17.5% of our workers in this state belong to a union. most people do not. so it wasn't a relevant issue for most michiganders. >> so he was accurate about that because snyder admits only 17% of workers belong to a union in the state of michigan yet he expects us to believe that a right-to-work law will spur economic development? it defies common sense. i'm not done with this story. more...
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that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
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republican governor rick snyder could sign the bills tomorrow. it is going to make michigan the country's 24th state with these right-to-work laws. aside from harming michigan's unions the aim of course, is also to hurt labors' biggest ally the democratic party. joining us for how today's developments in michigan are going to play out nationally, i'm joined by teamsters president james p. hoffa. jim, thank you so much for taking out the time to talk to us "the war room." >> thank you very much. great to be on your show. >> jennifer: i appreciate -- because i know you were there today at the capitol. what was it like for you? >> well, we had thousands and thousands of union people from all unions, teamsters uaw building trades and everybody was outraged with what's going on. michigan is basically the most unionized state in the country. and for the governor to pull this, you know, with a lame duck session of the legislature not even trusting the new legislature to do this so fast with no hearings really was an outrage and people were yelling and s
republican governor rick snyder could sign the bills tomorrow. it is going to make michigan the country's 24th state with these right-to-work laws. aside from harming michigan's unions the aim of course, is also to hurt labors' biggest ally the democratic party. joining us for how today's developments in michigan are going to play out nationally, i'm joined by teamsters president james p. hoffa. jim, thank you so much for taking out the time to talk to us "the war room." >>...
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so that's why rick snyder says he got rid of union rights in the state. michigan at the same time voted no on the emergency manager law. and so rick snyder responded to that vote by passing a new emergency manager law. one that can't be repealed by the voters this time. that happened this afternoon. snyder is due to sign it as soon as it hits his desk. and this is how michigan works these days. this is why rick snyder is making michigan famous for the most radical state governments in the nation. they treat democracy there like a coin toss. it's one of those coin tosses where if it's heads they win. but if it's tails you lose. do you want to flip again? what has happened in michigan so far is the most dramatic manifestation of how the republican party intends to govern in response to the last election. there's been a lot of talking about what the republicans are going to do, what the republicans might do differently now, but this isn't about talking. in michigan we are seeing what they are doing. are these guys an outlier or is this representative of what
so that's why rick snyder says he got rid of union rights in the state. michigan at the same time voted no on the emergency manager law. and so rick snyder responded to that vote by passing a new emergency manager law. one that can't be repealed by the voters this time. that happened this afternoon. snyder is due to sign it as soon as it hits his desk. and this is how michigan works these days. this is why rick snyder is making michigan famous for the most radical state governments in the...
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we believe governor snyder, yeah. he is gutting the unions to give more freedom to less than 20% of the workforce in the state? actually, only 17.5% of the workers in the state of michigan are union members. that's 671,000 people. governor snyder needs to explain why a small percentage of his state needed such a massive legal overhaul before the end of the year in a lame duck session of their legislature. let's turn to virg bernero, mayor of lansing, michigan, where all the action was yesterday and in recent days, and former ohio governor ted strickland with us tonight. gentlemen, great to have you with us. it's either unions took a shot in the boiler or a sleeping giant has just been awakened. only time will tell as this all unfolds. governor, you first. is ohio getting pressure to pass the so-called right-to-work legislation? what is going on there? >> well, there are efforts under way in ohio right now to gather signatures for an initiative, and i think we're going to face this challenge in ohio, and i think other
we believe governor snyder, yeah. he is gutting the unions to give more freedom to less than 20% of the workforce in the state? actually, only 17.5% of the workers in the state of michigan are union members. that's 671,000 people. governor snyder needs to explain why a small percentage of his state needed such a massive legal overhaul before the end of the year in a lame duck session of their legislature. let's turn to virg bernero, mayor of lansing, michigan, where all the action was yesterday...
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without hesitation earlier this evening, governor snyder signed the bill into law. there is a simple reason that laws like the one signed earlier are bad policy and bad economics. there's nothing wrong with a tough negotiation between a governor and labor unions or between a ceo and his workers. economic reality has to drive such negotiations. when i was governor, i negotiated hard but change the rules so workers cannot be effectively represented by a union takes away a fundamental right of workers to be represented on matters central to their economic well-being. it is one thing to be tough in negotiations, it is quite another to destroy the capacity of the union to negotiate at all. by slowly bleeding funds away from the union that's exactly what these bills do. this is not about helping the state in tough economic times. it is about destroying the unions. this is what president obama rightly said in detroit yesterday. >> obama: these so-called right-to-work laws they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. it is giving you the r
without hesitation earlier this evening, governor snyder signed the bill into law. there is a simple reason that laws like the one signed earlier are bad policy and bad economics. there's nothing wrong with a tough negotiation between a governor and labor unions or between a ceo and his workers. economic reality has to drive such negotiations. when i was governor, i negotiated hard but change the rules so workers cannot be effectively represented by a union takes away a fundamental right of...
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i talked to governor snyder about that. he said he is moving in a direction he believes will take michigan forward where it needs to be, where it needs to grow economically. he will not necessarily listen to what could be perceived as a little bit of a threat from washington the president is opposed to something you're doing. he is not concerned about putting michigan at odds with washington. what he is concerned we says is moving michigan forward in terms of growing jobs, martha. martha: mike, you see separation between union leadership and workers themselves in terms of their political backgrounds. we saw what happened in wisconsin with the effort to out of the governor there, scott walker, after he helped to initiate moves like this in terms of the union. john kasich also had issues come up after his election. he tried to enact things in ohio. does governor snyder expect in the next election round there will be a big backlash against him as well? >> he expects, he does understand he put his feet into a tempest here if yo
i talked to governor snyder about that. he said he is moving in a direction he believes will take michigan forward where it needs to be, where it needs to grow economically. he will not necessarily listen to what could be perceived as a little bit of a threat from washington the president is opposed to something you're doing. he is not concerned about putting michigan at odds with washington. what he is concerned we says is moving michigan forward in terms of growing jobs, martha. martha: mike,...
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michigan snyder what did he say? snyder did not address as they explained in the slate, did not address the right to work in his presentation but told members of the news media afterwards, it is not on my agenda because it is divisive. then what did he do? he put it on his agenda. the minute he had an opportunity he passed the right to work laws. why? he is a liar. he intended to deceive the public so they would vote for him. that's point number two. it's frustrating that the press doesn't understand that. you see, they have to lie otherwise they can't win because their real purpose is to represent the top 2%, the rich and the powerful that fund their campaigns. if they told you the truth, if snyder and romney said i'm out for the rich, will you vote for me, and i'm only for the rich--they wouldn't get your vote. that's why they have to lie on a mass scale. the press who just doesn't get it. the detroit free press after snyder lying to them and pushed forward the right to work law said this. we also indulge many comp
michigan snyder what did he say? snyder did not address as they explained in the slate, did not address the right to work in his presentation but told members of the news media afterwards, it is not on my agenda because it is divisive. then what did he do? he put it on his agenda. the minute he had an opportunity he passed the right to work laws. why? he is a liar. he intended to deceive the public so they would vote for him. that's point number two. it's frustrating that the press doesn't...